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240Z: Factory Transmissions knowledge, overview, Options and Specs

Here we go with another knowledge post. This time: Transmission.
I collected A LOT of information about transmissions over the past few months and put them all together into one single post.
Much information is floating around the internet but it’s tricky to puzzle it all together if you’re new to the topic, keep the overview and sort out the wrong information. Especially if you don’t have all the official documents on hand to double check it.

Picture below shows F4W71A Transmission, Picture from the 1970 FSM:

The purpose of this post is to cover the – not so commonly – available information for the European 5-speed Manual transmission, used in the Datsun 240Z, but i will also cover Japanese and American Market 4-speed versions, automatic transmissions and optional / racing Transmissions & gearsets. But it may not be complete.
I tried my best to get the information right and have as much information as possible from original documents and manuals by Nissan but even the original documentation sometimes contradicts itself.

UPDATE 2020: I’ve added a lot of new information which i’ve gained since the original post, ironed out a few details that were wrong in the initial post and reworked some sections.
Picture shows different JDM transmissions, scan from the Motorfan S30 special book:
motorfan-transmission-scan-001-kopie

1. Transmission type identification
1.1 Transmission type code
The transmission Model or type code is key to understand what transmission you have, and what is inside. They’re also mentioned in the Manuals and other documentation.
The Type-Code is NOT visible on the manual transmission anywhere!
I’ve already posted this in the past, but decided to make a better graphic for easy overview.
The chart does not include Automatic transmissions.

240Z factory transmission code key

Update October 2023: On the automatic transmission, you can find the type code cast into the housing, as shown in the 3N71B transmission in the following picture:

1.2 Transmission Serial Numbers and model stamps.
The 1976 S30 Chassis & Body supplement 1 manual shows you where to find the serialnumber-stamp on the transmission (bell)housing:

Update January 2022: The 1981 Swiss Datsun warranty service instruction manual also shows how to write down the JATCO Automatic transmission model and 7-digit serial number on the warranty label in case of warranty repairs:

2. Factory transmissions:
2.1. Overview:

Depending on the country and year, there were different Factory Transmission options. But there are two main groups used in the S30 chassis:

Early “A-type”  (1970 to late 1971, varying a bit, depending on country and transmission type, see details below)
Later “B-Type” (1972 to 1974, also used in later Generation Z’s and other cars, see details below)

The “Type-Letter” is refering to the last Letter in the transmission model code.
Early type for example is FS5C71A, later type FS5C71B, and so on, see code chart above.

Within each of these two main Groups, there are similar three subgroups:
Nissan 4-Speed Manual, Nissan 5-speed Manual and JATCO 3-speed Auto. 

I made an overview Including the Type-code for easier understanding (click for full size):
Factory transmission overview
2.2. Transmissions according to Markets:
Which transmission was available in your market? Well – you can find this information in your FSM (Factory Service Manual) but here’s an overview:

USA & Canada (LHD): 4-speed Manual and 3-speed Auto*
Europe (LHD): 5-Speed Manual (3-speed auto, in some markets)
UK (Europe RHD): 5-Speed Manual (, 3-speed auto, in some markets)
Australia & Oceania (RHD): 5-Speed Manual, 3-speed Auto
Japan (RHD): 5-Speed Manual, 3-speed Auto (4-speed Manual only with L20)*
*Optional and competition transmissions are not included in this chart

Here is an Example of the 1974 FSM listing all B-type transmissions according to the dedicated market-model (first row).
For earlier model years, just replace all “B” with “A” in the transmission type code 🙂
B-type transmissions

In the sales brochure of your country you’ll also find the gearing / acceleration charts for your market. Like the one from the swiss sales brochure shown here:

In the Japanese 1971 “S30 introduction” Bulletin book (which was released before the introduction of the L24 version was released in Japan, so it’s not included):
You can see that the
S30S (with L20) engine got the 4-speed m/t
S30 and S30S F (With L20 engine) got the 5-speed m/t
PS30 (Z432 with S20 Engine) got the 5-speed m/t as well

The same bulletin also includes (aside from a lot of gearing charts) also this nice shematic view of the two manual transmissinos that were available in the beginning in the Japanese market:

3. Optional transmissions and Gearing
In Europe and Japan there were optional competition and racing Gearsets and complete gearboxes available for the Z’s. Here for example shown in the japanese 1979 “Nissan Sports options” catalogue:

The Japanese sports transmission manual shows following gearing options including the Rallye Options listed for the FS5C71B type transmission used from 1972 upwards. According to the same book, the FS5C71A type transmission was used until end of 1971.

The early japanese Race & Rallye preparation manual shows following options available for the japanese S30 Variations also in comparison with other cars like the PGC10 skyline and SR311 Fairlady. Im not sure if a later version of this manual exists, which includes the B-type Manual transmissions.

In USA it was a different story, since they never got the 5-speed Manual Box:
– They offered Retrofit-Kits to install the Roadster 2000 (SR311) FS5C71A Transmission to the 240Z (See further below)
– From 1977-1983 the 280Z FS5C71B Gearbox got available with optional competition Gearsets (and as a complete gearbox assembly), which was also used as competition or racing part in the 240Z’s (with optional shifter-kit if used in an 1970-1971 car!)
Here’s a Pic of the 1978 USA Datsun 240Z Sports Option catalogue for example:
option tranny parts usa

See complete list of Factory and optional transmissions / gearsets a bit further down and also next chapter for racing gears.

4. Racing gears
I do not want to include a lot of information about racing cars. There were too many different setups used in the factory and private racing cars over the years. but since i just  happen to have this picture on hand i thought i’d put it here as well.
The 1970 RAC Rallye car gear setup (at least the speeds). By Autocar Magazine:

Here are the S20 engined Z432-R option gear sets from the september 1970 japanese sports option parts catalogue (including standard gears in the last row)

5. Automatic Transmission
The Automatic transmission is most commonly seen in the American market. In the most other markets, the manual transmission equipped cars where the primary sold units. According to the Nissan official information, you see here on this site, the 3-speed A/T was officially available for Europe, but most european import companies, like for e.g. in Switzerland, never imported and sold the Automatic transmission version 240Z. I still yet have to see an A/T version 240Z, which was officially imported and sold in a european country.
According to Hitoshi Uemuras “240Z engineering development” book, originally the transmission tunnel space was designed to provide space for the BorgWarner BW35 transmission (the only automatic transmission available at the time), but then later the Yoshiwara Plant (later known as Jatco) produced compact automatic transmission was installed and the extra space provided for the BW transmission was never fully used.

I found this interesting Text by the Australian “Road and Track” Magazine, when they reviewed the 240Z Automtatic car:

From the same 1970 Road and Track magazine, there’s this acceleration chart for the 3-speed Auto transmission:

Here’s a picture of the JATCO (Japanese Automatic Transmission Co.) Plant, with a 3N71B Transmission below, along some JATCO company data. Scanned from the Nissan 1964-1973 Chronicles book. Jatco was a joint-venture between Nissan Motor Co., Toyo-kogyo (Mazda) and Ford. Founded 1970 in Fuji City (Shizuoka Prefecture)

I’m not sure if this information is correct, but this picture from the nov/dec. 1994 Issue of the Z-car magazine (taken at the 1994 National Z-car convention in USA), shows Mr. K’s special yellow G-Nose 240Z, with a sign that says, it was the first automatic transmission Z imported to the US, in January 1972:

Update January 2022: In this 1979 swiss Datsun mechanic training course manual, it is shown that the Automatic transmissions had an additional type-code (“X and a four-digit code”) depending on the internals. On the right side you can see the details of a specific model. Allthough the S30 cars are not listed, because the Auto transmission was never sold in the 240Z in switzerland. But just as an example.

5.1 A-type Automatic
It took me a while to figure out that the 3N71A unit was actually installed in the Z.

Most european part lists and Manuals only mention the B-type automatic.
However there is evidence that an A-type transmission existed and was installed.

And once you start to dig deeper, you find more information.
See also chapter “Date of Changes”

I found this Picture of a 240Z A-type Auto transmissiom manual Online:

And it’s also listed in the 1979 Australian RHD FSM, even if you don’t find it in the Australian Parts-microfiches list from the same year, strangely.

For comparison. The european LHD FSM (picture taken from my own 1979 microfiche set) does not even mention the A-type Auto-transmission:

6. Differences between A- short tail, A- long tail and B-type(s)
First a bit of history. The early 5-Speed “A-Type” Transmission was not developed for the 240Z, but carried over from the Datsun roadster 2000 (SLR311) and probably also used in other older Datsun models.

To fit the L-series motor and the 240Z Specs, the 240Z-Transmission was fitted with a different clutch bell housing, Gears, longer mainshaft, tail Extension casing and one of the shift rods is different too.
That’s why the Roadster Gearbox is often refered to as “short tail” and the Z-Gearbox as “Long tail” Fs5C71A Transmission.
The US market got 4-speed non-overdrive gearing, but im not sure if there was an A-type 4-speed maybe used previously in other datsun’s as well..
Here’s a picture of a FS5C71A “short tail” from a Datsun Roadster (From the Roadster FSM)
FS5C71A (roadster2000)

While here is a view of the FS5C71A “Long tail” from the Datsun 240Z (Picture from the Nissan Motorsports schematic Catalogue).

FS5C71A

Also see the following pic, which is the FS5C71A Factory European Spec 5-speed that came with my two early 1972 240Z’s.
P1160981 - Kopie

Then there is the B-Type from the 1972+ 240Z which is a complete redesign of the “A-type” transmissions.
– The biggest difference is the two-piece Bellhousing of the A, while later B-type has a single piece bellhousing.
– Another visual difference are the Cast-fins on the outside of the housings as seen in the pictures above and here:
FS5C71B transmission

Here is a comparison between the A- and B-type from the S30 from the japanese G-works Fairlady Z S30 Magazine vol. 2:
DSC_0492

– The gear ratios were different on both A- and B-types (both in 4- and 5-speeds)
– Due to the redesign the Shifter stick position is moved stlightly to the front in the “B-type” (See below).
– There were also other changes, so be careful when swapping transmissions!
– Note that the B-type Transmission was used over a Long time and in several cars after the 240Z, so it got various design-changes in later models which will or will not fit the 240Z. In this post i will not cover that topic!

Here’s a Comparison between the 240Z transmissions, Left to right:
FS5C71A “Long tail” 5speed from the 1970-1971 240Z (non-US)
FS5C71B 5speed from the 1972+ 240Z (non-US)
FS5W71C from Later Datsun / Nissan model cars
3N71B Spline Type 3-speed Automatic (1972+ non-Euro 240Z)
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According to the swiss technical Service Bulletin Nr. 101 from 30.11.1972 (About the change of the 5-speed transmission from A-type to B-type in the 240Z)
– The transmissions can NOT be swapped 1:1 from A to B (or opposite) without any additional changes
– The inside gearing is different (see information on this site)
– The Clutch-Bellhousing has changed from a two-piece to single-piece design
– The rear transmission extension was shortened by 12.5mm, to compensate the longer transmission internals
– The internal gear cogwheels where strengthened on the B-type
– The Counternut which secures the grearset on the main shaft was replaced with a self-locking nut
– The small Metal balls which are used for the shift-locks have now been standardized and have all the same size.
– The shift stick Mounting type changed (see also next point) and is now secured with a rubber-piece against water-entry. The new type shift-stick is bent backwords

6.1 Shift-stick mounting types
The A-type got the infamous so-called “Monkey Motion” rubber mounted shifter-stick, while the B-type shifters have a solid cross pin. Later “C-type” models (not used in the S30) are retained in a top cover plate by a circlip (Called “Top Loader”):
stickmounts

Here’s a closer look at my restored early A-Type “Monkey motion” Shifter before assembly:

7. Date / Serialnumber of Change
When exactly did those Changes happen?

7.1 Automatic
The American Parts microfiche book states that the 3N71A Type transmission was used up to March 1971, before it was replaced with the 3N71B Type in April 1971:

According to the Japanese Parts microfiches, the A-type Auto transmission was used up to SNR S30-004902

And the first B-type Auto transmission started with Car No S30-004903

7.2 Manual 4-speed
The Japanese parts manual lists the Change from SNr S30-07500 for the Old F4W71A transmission, with the new F4W71B introduced at SNr. S30-07501



The American Manual says the A-type was used up to August 1971 and the B-type introduced from September 1971

7.3 Manual 5-speed
Strangely, the Japanese parts manual does not list a date or SNR for the change of the complete transmission assembly, like in the 4-speed manual or 3-speed auto transmissions.

Instead they just listed a date, until which the gear set from the FS5C71A was used. Namely up to SNr S30-8478 and PS30-514. I highly expect that this SNR is where the complete transmission changed from A-to by type as well.
Luckily i found this 1972 swiss service bulletin about the transmission change, starting with SNr: HLS30-065701

The Service Bulltetin vol 179 “Modification of Datsun 240Z Model S30 series” additionally lists the change for the RHD version cars, starting with the
SNr: HS30-02101


Then there is the (pretty surely) wrong information stated in the Japanese sports transmission manual, which says the B-type M/T was only introduced in 1973:

And the Swiss 1979 Microfiche which doesn’t even name the B-type 5-speed, despite the facts that my two Swiss-spec Z’s both have them and many other’s i know. so this list is clearly incomplete too..

7.4 Center Console
There are two different types of Center consoles. One with the Ashtray in front of the stick  and one behind. Some sources say that’s because of the difference in shifter stick Position in A- and B-transmissions (See above).

I made a picture for comparison:

I cannot confirm above information, since both of my early 1972 cars (built end of 1971) came with the early A-type 5-speed and the later Center console with the ashtray behind the stick (See picture below). This would be a wrong combination according to the sources but i’m pretty sure this was the factory equipment in both of my cars. It seems that the center console was changed indipendently from the transmission but around the same time, but not exactly. At least not in all markets (see information below)P1170175

The european, american and austrialian microfiches state that the console was changed from August 1971

The 1972 Parts manual from Japan just mentions the change in 1972, but also mentions the change introduced at SNr: S30-007501 and PS300501 (Z432). So probably export markets got the new console installed earlier?

8.1. Transmission interchangeability
8.1.1 Datsun Roadster 2000 FS5C71A into 240Z:
In America People used to install the Roadster 2000 FS5C71A transmission to get a 5-speed into their Z. This Retrofit was officially sold by Nissan / NISMO USA.

I was able to find a receipt of someone who bought this swap at a nissan dealer including all the part numbers needed:
FS5C71A Conversion kit reciet1

The following information is from the 1998 american NISMO manual:

8.4.2 A-type with A-type
Swapping an Manual A-type 4-speed to a 5-speed should be a simple thing without any modifications needed since both have similar length and shifter positions.

A 4 vs 4 speed

8.4.3 A-type to B-type
Here you can see a A-type US-spec 4-speed Transmission (front) and a B-type US-spec 4- or 5-speed in the rear. According to the source, both transmissions are within a small fraction of an Inch of each other in total length. The 510 Transmission identification Manual (See Documents below), Says that all 4- and 5-speed both A- and B-types of the 240Z have a total length of 31.5In / 775mm, so this might just be within the tolerances.

Trans Change Shifter dif Type A Type BTrany 001

You can see the Centerline of the “A”-Shifter in the foreground (line #3) sits about 2.25 inchehs behind the Center line of the B-type Transmission (rear, line #1).
Line #2 is the rear end of both transmissions.
Trans Change Shifter dif 001
To install a Later B-type five Speed, which was sold as Competition Part in US at one Point in a car that was initially equipped with an A-type (four Speed) Transmission, Nissan sold the “Shifter Kit” (Part number 99996-E3030) as seen on the B-type Transmission in the back. It’s basically a bent stick where the original one is straight. The Shifter kit is not available anymore (Courtesy Nissan Information to my request in 2016) but i guess you can just bend the original stick. Also a different propeller shaft is needed.
See also this information from the 1998 Transmission manual:

The shifter sticks are not interchangeable between A and B-type and 4- and 5-speeds.

8.4.4 Later Datsun / Nissan transmission swaps
There are possibilities to swap to a huge array of different Datsun / Nissan Transmissions, but to not make it more complicated for the Moment, i will make a separate post about this Topic later.

9. Transmission / gearing overview
I made an overview based on existing overviews and doublechecked everything with FSM’s, schematics, competition catalogues, E-Fast database, Original Micro-fiches and so on for hours. however sometimes some data was not 100% clear. anyhow i think this is the most complete overview about 240z Transmissions and (later) Options.

Note that this list is not 100% complete since there were also optional single gears to choose and 4-speed optional gears which i didn’t include in the list.
Also note that the part number for the same part may be different in different markets or may have changed over the time.
Transmission overview 240z
Click here to download the full PDF file (Free)

If text is coloured in a certain colour this means the “source” with the same text-colour mentioned this data, while all the other sources mentioned the black text. Sometimes it’s obviously a typographic Error but in some cases im not sure.

Also note that there are several other Datsun / Nissan 71A/B Transmissions and Gear kits wich will fit the original transmission and / or L-Series motor but not listed above since they were used in different cars. The list above only contains transmissinos wich were used by factory or sold as option through nissan for the 240Z / Fairlady S30 in different markets.

10. Brass “Warner” vs Servo “Porsche” style steel Synchros
There are both Porsche style steel servo synchros and Warner style Brass synchros. What’s the difference? I  have no own experiences but i found following information online:

– The porsche type reacts slower than the warner type
– Porsche type shifts smoother than Warner type
– Porsche type snycros dislike being “speed shifted” (probably due to lower reaction times)
– Warner type is great for drag racing (Fast shifting possible due to fast reaction times)
Since all “competition” transmissions came with porsche synchros despite having slower reaction times, i guess they can handle slightly more power and / or last longer under heavy usage compared to brass synchros. Otherwise it would not make a lot of sense to have these in “competition” (or non-US standard) gearboxes.
synchro_types

Update January 2022: In the 1979 swiss Datsun mechanic training manual, the working principle of the servo snchro is explained nicely (left side)

And also the detailed components of the 260Z transmission snynchronization setup:

11. Clutch throw out bearing collars / sleeves
Upon request i added this information. I found it here:

https://www.classiczcars.com/topic/53029-could-it-be-a-slipping-clutch/

A lot of people refer to the collar by the transmission, but that can be misleading. Its better to go by the year. Datsun changed the pressure plate the same time they changed the 71A to the 71B transmission. After that its all over the place. You can get a 71B 4 speed with thre different collars, just depends if its in a 240Z, 280Z or a 2+2.

The to drawing below show how you can get confused by using the transmission to determine collar height. The second drawing show the same, but per model Zed.


12. Speedometer Pinion Gear
Update 19.04.2017: I was looking myself for the correct speedometer pinion gear and figured out this part was missing yet. So here we go. I made a nice overview for you:

Picture from Zparts.com showing all the gears:

13. Transmission crossmembers
Update 02.02.2018: I discovered there are totally three types of transmission crossmembers for the 240Z. Thought this might be useful to know as well, so check out the details in a separate post i made here with additional informations about the bushings: https://www.jdmjunkies.ch/wordpress/2018-02-04/240z-new-custom-made-transmission-crossmember-bushings/

14. Shift patterns
I found this picture in the Nissan Sports transmission manual, showing various shift patterns. Not all of these were used in the S30 chassis, but might still be useful in some cases:

15. Fluids
15.1 Manual transmission fluids:

Coming soon

15.2 Automatic transmission fluids:
This is oil recommendation for the 3N71A and B automatic transmission, taken from the 1979 swiss datsun mechanic training course documentation:

16. Optional / Competition / NISMO / Racing Parts
In the 1998 NISMO Catalogue i found a set of Aluminum bushings for the A-type Transmission:

And they offered also a set of stiffer Polyurethane Bushings for the B-type Transmission mount:

16. Repair Times
The 1972 Swiss Repair flatrate times Manual lists following repair times for the different transmission repair tasks for the 240Z (in german / french language). A+E means “Austausch und Einbau” (removal and (re-)installation):


17. Original Documentation
There are a big range of original Service manuals and some not so obvious manuals available in various market versions for the different transmissions. Aside from the standard S30 FSM and Parts manuals of course, which should always be the starting point.

Here you get a short overview and some are available as download:

Datsun FS5C71A transmission service manual (From Roadster 2000 SR311 Manual, will also work for 240Z 5-speed except some differences in the hardware):
FS5C71A transmission service manual (Roadster 2000)

Nissan Motorsports schematic catalog (99996-M8015) and also the older version, which includes an english FS5C71A / F5C71B Parts exploded view and Partslist (and also other transmissions from the Nissan Lineup)

Read more about it and download it here:
https://www.jdmjunkies.ch/wordpress/2021-01-22/240z-datsun-nissan-motorsports-schematic-catalogues-free-download/

Datsun / Jatco 3N71A Automatic transmission Manual:
Datsun – Service Manual – Full Automatic Transmission – 3N71A

Nissan Japan Sports transmission Manual 1973

See full story and download here: https://www.jdmjunkies.ch/wordpress/2018-10-23/240z-nissan-sports-and-rallye-transmission-manual/

Japanese race and rally preparation Manual (there are at least two versions of it):

“Five and dime” 510 Magazine Volume 11, Issue 4, Datsun / Nissan Transmission identification guide (See Pages 04-09 for a lot ofinformation):
Five and Dime vol11 issue 04 (Nissan Transmission Identification)

Datsun FS5C71A transmission Rebuild Manual by Rising Sun Racing (1987):
FS5C71A Rebuild Manual by Rising Sun Racing (1987)

18. Spareparts
Spareparts – especially for the early manual 5-speed – are hard to find these days, but below you find some adresses that still sell some parts:

https://www.swmotorsport.com.au
https://www.drivetrain.com/parts_catalog/manual_transmission_part…
https://www.datsunparts.com/Transmission-Kits-and-Packages
Generally, those japanese Vintage skyline and S30 specialists are definitely worth a visit.
here’s a flyer from Transmission specialist Vintagecraft-e-za, as an example:

Over the years i’ve collected many Original parts and reworked a lot of the hardware for my European A-type 5-speed M/T.

Some parts like new bushings for the early A-type five speed transmission i found on ebay:

19. Useful Links
An overview about different nissan / Datsun transmissions and gearing:
https://www.gracieland.org/cars/techtalk/gearing2.html
https://www.zhome.com/ZCMnL/tech/GearRatios.html

20. Thanks for reading
I thank anyone who provided some information for this Post.
If you find any mistakes and can prove it with an official document, please let me know, so i can update this post with the correct Information!

46 Comments

  • Bill Morgan

    As a point of interest, my 1970 240Z had a B-type 4-speed swapped into it at some point. It came with the original A-type 4-speed as well. In order to install the B-type trans without cutting the tunnel the installer used an MSA Short Shift kit, which comes with a bent shift lever. It isn’t helping me with the 5-speed trans I’m installing now, but gives me a pattern for bending the 5-speed lever.

    • JDMjunkies.ch

      Hi Bill,
      Thanks for the Feedback. Didn’t know about the MSA short shifter kit. Sounds interresting. will have a look at it. I’ve seen horribly bent sticks which just look totally wrong when installed and must bi terrible to shift 🙂

    • Kirk Towner

      Hi Bill, Awesome read! I have a 1970 Nissan Fairlady ZL. I believe after reading your well researched article that the L20 engine has a type A transmission. I have a transmission leak and trying to determine and source gaskets and seals. Thanks for your time! Kirk Towner

      • JDMjunkies.ch

        Hi Kirk. Thanks a lot sir. and nice car you have.
        It’s easy. if you have a 3 piece transmission housing, then it’s an A-Type. if it’s a two piece then it’s A B-type.
        Gasket’s shouldnt be that hard to find if you search abit. otherwise i think you can have your own made or use more modern sealing lube. but i’m not a pro on that so i do not make any recommendations 🙂
        Good luck and cheers

      • Jerry M Hanchett

        Kirk

        First determine where the leak is coming from, front, rear, speedo cable, or middle. Clean off trans from bottom side and drive around or run car in gear with wheels removed to circulate the oil. then check where oil is coming from. A lift will help in eye-balling the leak.

        Gaskets and seals are available from multiple sources. If you have difficulty call me.

        904-347-8293

  • Loki

    Hi,
    Great write up! Do you happen to know about the throw out bearing collar size between type A 4sp vs 5sp? Reason is exedy performance clutch stage 1 stated it will work with 280z and not 240z/260z.

  • john stillwagon

    Really great post! Thanks a bunch. From what I was told when I acquired a recent Datsun project it came with either a spares performance american Mod or an imported B model 5 speed for 240z. It seems to be a little rare. I was planning on putting it on ebay because my project does not require it. If you know anyone interested I have it in my workshop in West Virginia

    • JDMjunkies.ch

      Thanks for your Kind words and you’re very welcome. The post is a “under Progress” type of post. Meanwhile i found some additional Information, which i want to update.
      Regarding your question: In europe it’s not rare at all, but in america it’s one of the rarer transmissions for the Z, from what i understand. because it was never officially sold with a 5-speed.

      A good alternative to ebay is the “datsun parts and Needs” Facebook-Group. While there are a lot of idiots there tryping to lowball or trying to tell you your stuff is shit. There might be one or another Person interested in it. Otherwise i don’t know anybody interested, since we can find that Transmission quite easy over here in comparison.

      good luck with the sales. Cheers
      – Nils

    • Simon Paul Nicholson

      I am looking for a 5-speed type B with a bent stick. Do you have? Also a R180 diff with crown wheel pinion 3.7 Ratio. UK type 1?

  • Robert Remkes

    Hi,I am swapping a 1970 4 speed to an a series 5 speed.The gearbox seems to have a flange at the output shaft on the 5 speed and a normal spline on the 4 speed for the front driveshaft yoke.

  • Mike Williams

    Great information…thanks for all the hard work compiling the data.
    Would you happen to know how many automatics were produced in the 1971 Z? I have searched the internet to no avail. Thanks again. Great effort.

    • JDMjunkies.ch

      Hi, you’re very welcome. Will update this post soon, as it has a few wrong information. Anyhow I don’t know how many automatic were produced in the 71 Z i’m sorry. there is data how many were produced, exported, etc. but i don’t have any information about how many were automatic, i’m afraid. In general it’s hard to obtain these numbers, and when you get them they’re still vague…
      It also depents where you live. In europe only 5-speed manuals where sold, whereas in USA both 4-speed manual and three speed Auto were available and in Japan there were more options depending on which version of the car you got…

  • Jerry M Hanchett

    I recently installed a close ratio five speed in my 72 240Z everything works great except the speed gear does rotate. I installed the four speed speed gear housing in the 5 speed. If I line up the housing with the tab/bolt retainer the speed gear doesn’t turn when rotating drive shaft. If a remove the retaining tab and rotate the gear housing it will engage but then the slot does not line up to install the retaining tab, it’s about 180 degrees off. Was there special speed gear housing for the close ratio trans?

    • JDMjunkies.ch

      Hi Jeremy. Good question. What type of transmission do you exactly have and which one was the original transmission? I could look into the documentatino and see if i can find something.

  • Jerry M Hanchett

    removed original 4 speed from ’72 240Z, replaced with 78 280Z close ratio 5 speed, I bought already removed so I was told that is what it came out of, did not come with speedo gear.

    I used speedo gear from 4 speed but later got a gear from 5 speed.

    • JDMjunkies.ch

      Ah i See. When it’s about the later type cars I’m not 100% sure what transmission it is. I spent most of my time with 240Z cars and actually i dont really know what the 280Z came with, without doing some research. My manuals only cover the 240Z / 260Z and japanese fairlady. but i’m sure you find the parts manual online (carpartsmanual.com?) and can compare the partnumbers. in the original parts manual you should also see the exact type code of the transmissions you got. I’m sorry i can’t help you more, but i’m soure you find the information if you look around.
      Cheers

  • John Kish

    Thanks for all the effort you put into this informative post. As an original owner, I’m still running my original 4 speed A model tranny in my ’71 240Z. which now has almost 190,000 miles on it.. Runs and shifts great!

    • JDMjunkies.ch

      Hi John, thanks for the kind words and nice feedback. Happy to hear your original 4-speed is still in great shape!
      I’ve planned some updates in this post whenever i find time to do it… Cheers

  • Mike Hamilton

    Hi I have a datsun Transmission I took off my 510 race car back in 91. The serial Number is 7905710 it also has a #7
    stamped on it. I wrote on Transmsion it was a 5 speed. I find it odd the there are no letters in the serial Number.
    Am I missiong something. I want to sell or keep for my 280z track car but not sure what I have.
    Any thoughts ?
    Thanks
    Mike

    • JDMjunkies.ch

      As far as i know, it is not really possible to find out what transmission you have only by the stamps and numbers on the cases.
      The SNr stamp is really just a production serial number and has no reference to the type of transmission. The type of transmission is not really stamped anywhere on th e cases.
      You really have to open it up to figure out what is inside. which i think is a bit weird, since they made so many different versions which all look the same.
      I think with the help of this transmission related post, you can at least figure out if its an A-, B-, or C-type transmisssion. By switching through the gears with the stick, you can find out if it’s an 4- or 5-speed and maybe you can even figure out the Pattern (Standard or dogleg, and where the reverse is). But to know the exact gearing, you have to open it up, i think…

  • LARRY W MILLER

    I have a F4W71A trans that came out of a 1970 Nissan Fairlady Z. I was told by one person that the bearings are not replaceable. Is this correct?
    Any advice getting this trans rebuilt? I live in FL. Looking for leads.
    Sounds like a nightmare with the different size shift locks in the early ones.
    Thanks,
    Larry

  • Fred

    Hi wanted to convert my 73 240Z from auto to manual if possible without cutting the transmission tunnel would this be possible, would a 71-71 transmission allow that?

    Thanks for your time

    • JDMjunkies.ch

      Hi Manfred,
      depends what you mean with “71-71” transmission? if it’s an 1971 year build then it might only fit with additional fitting work. If you mean a 71A or B type transmission the B-type is most probably the one for you to take.

  • Engelen André

    Hello, I have a “monkey motion” stick on a F4W71A and we’re in the proces of fixing it… but I can’t remove the “arm – control” (to make things worse, a part of it is broken off), a few questions here, are these still available, and b, how do I remove the bushing (where the arm-control pivoting around)

    • JDMjunkies.ch

      Hi there. sorry for my late reply, i was on holiday. can you maybe send me a photo of which part exactly is broken and what part you need? I think the F4W71A transmission service manual is part of the early datsun 240Z Factory service manual. or your car’s manual, which you should be able to find for free download online. most parts are not available anymore. but i guess you can find them if you search for them long enough… i found the monkey montion bushings on ebay, if i mind correctly…
      I hope this helps. Cheers
      – Nils

  • ken clark

    when did datsun go with the left hand threaded nut on the main shaft on thier 5 speed tranmission every 5 peed transmission that I have worked on I have found the right hand theaded nut on the main shaft has been loose when they get really loose you will lose your 5 gear and reverse

  • Jason Lester

    I’m having a problem with a 4sp 1972 240z that won’t start unless the shifter is pressed to the side (while still in neutral, clutch pressed). It is not trying to catch a gear. It seems to be a matter of the starters electrical system, such as a neutral safety switch. All documentation that I’m finding suggests only automatics have such a switch which makes since. This has me completely stumped, any input would be appreciated.

    • JDMjunkies.ch

      Hi Jason. That sounsd weird. the only switch i’m aware of is the reverse gear switch in the transmission. maybe something is damaged there and the reverse gear switch blocks a starting? But i have no clue. You would need to check the wiring diagram (you can find it online as part of the 240Z FSM) and see how it is all hooked up.
      Otherwise i have absolutely no clue and i think it’s very unlikey that anything else in the transmission can avoid starting…
      I hope this helps. Cheers

  • Jerry M Hanchett

    If you have not done some rewiring in the past on this car I would say that your car was orginally an automatic car, which was wire to not start in gear. If this is the case then remove the wires on the back up light switch on the trans and see if the car starts normal.

  • Kats

    Hi,
    Thanks for your hard work, it is very interesting to read. My eyes spotted on to ‘The Service Bulltetin vol 179 “Modification of Datsun 240Z Model S30 series” additionally lists the change for the RHD version cars, starting with the
    SNr: HS30-02101’.
    This has been my one of the biggest question of all the S30 cars history. FS5C71B started to serve from January 1972, I think it is true for all the variants of the S30 cars. Then HS30-02101 could have been left from the factory in January 1972.
    However, in Japan L24 engined models Fairlady 240Z series were began to assemble from October 1971.
    And those cars have the same chassis prefix ‘HS30’ which is applied in all the RHD market L24 engined cars, and the cars in Japan started from HS30-10001 in October 1971.

    According to the race manual in Japan FS5C71B was installed starting with the HS30-10635 from January 1972.
    But for the export model, starting with the HS30-2101. And it must be from January 1972.

    How can we come to the conclusion for this odd thing?

    Nissan Shatai was running two different HS30 cars (export and domestic) at the same time into production line.
    The factory was making cars with current pats, some older parts were still current but never used newer parts which couldn’t be existing at the time.
    Then they stamped chassis numbers NOT in sequence, is that true?
    Kats

    • JDMjunkies.ch

      Dear Kats,
      That is indeed an interesting question and i think you can answer it even better than me 🙂
      I have learned a few times that the serial numbers mentioned in the Service Bulletin is not always 100% correct.
      For eg. “Euro final spec” cars have been released with lower SNr than mentione din the bulletins.
      I think you have the japanese bulletins. do they mention the same serial numbers and dates?
      It is indeed possible that the serial numbers were not produced in sequence. At least a few cases are reported where earlier serial numbers have been taken out of the production line, for whatever reason and been completed later.
      It might be that some of those SNr’s are lower than those mentioned in the bulletin, while getting the full specification.
      On the other hand i think the situation was quite chaotic in the production line and a lot of things happened there. Prioirity 1 was to fulfil the unexpected high orders.
      But that’s just my thoughts.
      I think only the records at nissan can really tell us which car was built to which specification.

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